Minutes of the LVRA monthly meeting Monday 14th January 2019

David Rhodes

Minutes of the Association Meeting: 20.00 hrs. on Monday, 14 January 2019 at the Top Club

Present: Karen Hawden (Chair), David Hempsall (Secretary),Darryl Nugent (Treasurer), Bob Nicholas (Footpaths Officer), David Rhodes (Social Media & Liaison officer); Chris Ainsworth, Richard Ball, Cllr Alyson Barnes, David Cairns, Derrick Bartlett-Smith, , Ann Corkin, David Corkin, John Dawson, Michael Dop, Cllr David Foxcroft, Barbara Gerken, Marie Hargreaves, Peter Holt, Ken Iveson, Keith Makinson, Val Makinson, Patricia O’Connell, Lewis Pearson, David Pilling, Jean Pilling, Eric Walton, Bett Watson, Ann White, and Chris Whiting.

In attendance: Stan Ainsworth.

Apologies: Michael Howard and Barbara Walton.

1.        Opening Remarks – Apologies – Thanks

1.1 Karen opened the meeting.

1.2 Apologies were taken.

2.        Minutes of previous Meeting: 10 December 2018

2.1 Eric proposed and Lewis seconded acceptance of the Minutes.

2.2 These were AGREEDnem. con.

3.        Matters Arising

3.3.1 Draft Local Plan – update Alyson said that relevant items appeared later on the Agenda. She thought the Commercial Street scheme unlikely to be brought forward in short order. St John’s Richard reported that Alyson had advised him that the Church of England had appointed an officer to oversee the future of the church building.

5 Commercial Street: Application by PWA on behalf of Hollins Strategic Land

5.1 She had urged Hollins Strategic Land to await any decision reached by the Planning Inspector; she felt they would proceed anyway.

5.2 She had gained the impression that having once gained the requisite permissions, Hollins would sell on; nonetheless, the developer had shown an awareness of the need to address impacts, such as school provision, and what to do about them.

6 The Glory bus stop

6.1 The Secretary had fielded requests that the damage to the bus stop be put on the Agenda.

6.2 The damaged stop had been caged off and repairs were anticipated.

6.3 Alyson confirmed that the bus shelter would be upgraded.

4.        Reports
4.1      Chairman

4.1.1 Karen reported yet another road traffic accident at the Goodshawfold Road junction.

4.1.2 She had received numerous comments on the proposed development at Commercial Street:

4.2      Secretary

4.2.1 In his shortest ever report, David relayed feedback about Issue 18 of the Limey Leader: thanking those who had distributed the magazine, he said the introduction of features was particularly appreciated.

4.2.2 He said that there was a regular flow of information from Diane Dungworth at Futures Park about planning issues; he commended the effectiveness of council officers in identifying – and seeking out the association’s view – on items which were of particular interest to residents on the LVRA’s “patch”.

4.3      Treasurer/Chairman LVAA

4.3.1 Darryl reported that funds at bank stood at £3,990.49 with a further £75.00 to be added as Limey Leader advertising income.

4.3.2 This being the close season, things were quiet on the allotments.

4.4      Footpaths Officer

4.4.1 Bob’s Report is shown as Annex 1.

4.4.2 The meeting discussed the partial collapse of the bank caused by traffic movement, especially that of HGVs and vans.

4.4.3 Bob said that a Section 59 prohibition had proved useless; there had been an exchange of emails with Alyson; David F said that there was no support at LCC to gate the road off.

4.4.4 Derrick asked if the route was a bridleway; Bob said it wasn’t and commented on the several inaccuracies in the local map made in the 1950s.

4.4.5 Barbara explained how, when snow was a problem, the route provided residents with an alternative way out.

4.4.6 Alyson said the way forward would involve a conversation with those responsible for the vehicular movements; she offered to initiate that conversation; ACTIONby Alyson.

4.5      Social Media & Liaison Officer

David R reported a further five followers on Facebook.

5. Fund-raising: 100 Club (or similar)

5.1 Bob read a short paper he had prepared (shown as Annex 2).

5.2 Having consulted the Treasurer and identified designated funds, he said that actual balances stood at £2,140.49: this was wholly inadequate for the original declared purpose, namely building up a war-chest to allow the association to take legal advice as and when it might be required.

5.3 There followed a brief discussion of the principle of a 100 Club: monthly contributions for a specified number with a monthly draw and prize; Alyson outlined a bonus ball approach; a show of hands demonstrated there was general support for the proposal to set up such a club.

5.4 Derrick advised that he needed only a go-ahead to set up a Race night at the CPA Club, probably in March; the meeting applauded the initiative and agreed that an admission charge of £5.00 would be appropriate with an additional charge for pie and peas; Derrick said that he would attend the next meeting with tickets printed up; in the interim, he would liaise with David R to advertise the event via social media.

6. Any Other Business

6.1 Lewis drew attention to the pedestrian crossing in the village which he said needed re-painting; David F said he had submitted a list of road marking requiring re-painting in Spring 2018 but the budget had been expended; none the less, the items remained on the “to do” list for LCC Highways.

6.2 Eric said that filling potholes with gravel on Goodshaw Lane had proved ineffective; moreover, hedges were becoming overgrown; David F said residents had been written to and whilst some had trimmed back offending hedges, some had not.

6.3 Eric asked for a dog bin to be provided; Alyson agreed to add the request to the list.

6.4 Barbara was concerned by activity on the Colebrand site; Alyson reported that Mark Bray – currently acting as RBC’s Enforcement Officer – had investigated and it appeared that the activity was being directed at re-building shell buildings which were in a poor state of repair; as to debris apparently being dumped in the Limey Water, Alyson would take this to the Environment Agency; ACTIONby Alyson.

7. Next Meetings and Close

7.1 The next meeting is to be held at 20.00hrs on 11 February 2019 at the Top Club

7.2 Thereafter the now usual pattern of utilising the 2ndMonday of each month will continue, so that subsequent meetings in 2019 are expected to be held as follows: 11 March; 8 April; 13 May; 10 June; 8 July; 12 August; 9 September; 14 October; 11 November (including AGM); 9 December.

7.3 The meeting closed at 20.35hrs.

Annex 1 Footpaths Officer

No sooner had the ink dried on my last report I received an email from a gentleman asking for my help with an escalating traffic problem on Stoneholme Road or Footpath No 101 as it is also known. The road seems to be being used increasingly by delivery vans and more worryingly by HGVs. The latter using the road to remove building materials (breezeblock and red brick) from the Colebrand site.

The gentleman in question has had a procrastinating, frustrating, and fruitless engagement with Lancashire County Council getting them to admit there is a serious problem over which action should be taken and the road closed to vehicle traffic between the south of the Kenross site and Stoneholme Terrace. This section of the road is in effect not necessary or in a good enough condition to carry excessive vehicle movements particularly the section alongside the River Limey bank which is of a fragile nature and the constant use by not only HGVs but all vehicles will only continue to exacerbate the subsidence already apparent. This vehicle activity has already resulted in a section of the bank starting to collapse into the river which covers one third of the road width.

In order to try and stop some vehicles the gentleman put up signs to stop traffic using the road, but these were vandalised and some thrown in the River Limey. LCC begrudgingly and possibly to get the gentleman off their collective backs put notices up (under section 59 traffic) prohibiting vehicles along the road. These have proved to be about as much use as using a cheese grater to dam water. The bottom line is that the road should be gated off with a small gate to make provision for walker’s horse riders and cyclists. I reported this situation in emails on Wednesday 9thJanuary to both of our local councillors with Cllr Foxcroft replying that he was in contact with LCC and Rossendale Council on this matter and would keep me in the loop regarding developments.

Bob Nicholas

Annex 2 Fund-raising

The subject of fund raising crops up on a regular basis at association meetings and just as quickly fades away, but it is really a serious subject. When the association was formed there was in place an annual membership fee of £5 per year which would have brought in £4,500 pounds + over the last nine years (based on 100 members) and was originally meant as the foundation for a fighting fund if the association had to acquire legal help in, say, a situation we are now faced with regarding the housing. But this was voted out and income since then has been extremely patchy.

The actual situation is as follows

  • As reported tonight the association’s funds stand at £3,990.49.

  • Subtract from this £700 for very generous donations received.

  • And the £1,000 in payments received from Lancashire County Council for work I have done on the footpaths over the last four years along with a payment from CAST of £150.00.

  • This actually leaves a net balance of £2,140.49 or a monthly income of just £19.81 per month over the last nine years.

This is a situation that needs redressing: the association is slowly becoming insolvent. And do we have to wait till we have to pass the cap round to raise funds to say print the Limey Leader before anything is done?

The committee have looked at various options, some one off events and one specific ongoing fund raising option. It is this option which the committee wishes to put to members. In short order what is proposed is to start a “100 club” (it could also be called a 50 or 200 club depending on how many join). Some members may be familiar with this type of club but for those not it is quite simple:

  • Members receive a number and pay in a set sum each month and at the annual monthly meeting a number is drawn and that number wins a cash prize.

  • Once a year, say at the AGM, members pick a local charity to donate some of the funds to, the remaining balance is kept by the association.

  • As funds increase the association can invest more in the community and will also have funds to meet any unexpected cost. In other words everyone is a winner.

  • And most importantly it will take the pressure off the need to do large fundraising events allowing the association to hold “easy to arrange” events that don’t involve a great deal of hard work falling on a small group of people as the case has been in the past.

There is some background work to be done on this – but at tonight’s meeting the committee would like to sound out members on the idea before continuing.

Bob Nicholas